Re: STC Questions

From: Arnold Rots <arots-at-head.cfa.harvard.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:34:07 -0400 (EDT)


David Berry had also weighed in on this subject, about a month ago, arguing that epoch should not be associated with a spatial coordinate frame. I have been convinced by the combined arguments of David and Francois. So, an epoch will be an optional attribute of astroCoordsType as well as regionType; it will be a double. And the order of precedence will be as follows:

The spatial coordinate values represent those at a time equal to:

- the epoch, if present; otherwise:
- the time of observation, if present; otherwise:
- the equinox of the coordinate system, if applicable; otherwise:
- 2000.0 for ICRS; otherwise:
- UNKNOWN

Note that this is only relevant (at least I think I have this list complete) for objects for which RA and Dec are time-variable due to:

- proper motion
- parallax
- orbital motion: binary stars, solar system objects,
  extra-solar planets, galactic rotation

Epoch should not be confused with equinox which is a property of the coordinate system (as correctly pointed out in the previous messages), if applicable.

Francois Ochsenbein wrote:
>
> Quick answer...
>
> >
> >Quick note....
> >
> >Francois states that
> >> The epoch of a coordinate system represents the date to which the
> >> spherical angles are reduced.
> >
> >I believe that you are defining Equinox here, not Epoch.
> >The epoch is the time of observation.
> >
>
> OK, my original point
>
> > 2. The Question of Epoch (Question (4) of the RFC page)
> >
> > The epoch of a coordinate system represents the date to which the
> > spherical angles are reduced. After reflexion, it looks more logical
> > to attach the Epoch to the AstroCoords structure (section 4.6)
> >
>
> would be better rephrased as
>
> 2. The Question of Epoch (Question (4) of the RFC page)
>
> The epoch of the coordinates represents the date to which the
> spherical angles are reduced. After reflexion, it looks more logical
> to attach the Epoch to the AstroCoords structure (section 4.6)
>
> (suppression of "system"). To a coordinate system it could be possible
> to attach a default epoch.
>
> --Francois
>
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