Re: Beyond the draft proposal

From: Ed Shaya <eshaya-at-umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:52:42 -0500


Rick,    

    I have done a first cut of breaking up the IVOAT in the process of creating an Ontology. So far I have regrouped terms into namespaces: astronomy, physics, chemistry, instrumentation, and "general" (which is called IVOAO). The general one has stuff that didn't fit elsewhere or were words that are common English words. I will soon put some of these into math, (and a subset of math for geometry alone), and earth science. I put all of the spectroscopic terms into chemistry which gives much credit to Analytical Chemistry and perhaps unfairly demotes the role of physicsts in this, but it is simpler this way and not too much should be read into the significance of a term being in one namespace versus another.

The ontologies are at http://archive.astro.umd.edu/ont (which is a redirect into the SVN repository at
http://archive.astro.umd.edu/ivoa-onto/src/main/resources/. There is also an OWLDOC (HTML) version at http://atlas.astro.umd.edu:8080/astro-onto/index.html, but it is not always up to date with the latest SVN commit.

There is also a Mavin jar for the entire ontology. Let me know if you have any interest in that.

Ed

http://atlas.astro.umd.edu:8080/astro-onto/index.html

Frederic Hessman wrote:
> Starting to think beyond the IVOA draft proposal:
>
> Right now, the IVOAT vocabulary (a cleaned-up version of the old IAU
> thesaurus) doesn't really cover everything one might need, e.g. there
> are the folowing (expressed as tokens)
>
> JohnsonPhotometry
> RMagnitude
> Filter
>
> so don't we really need
>
> RFilter
>
> or even
>
> JohnsonRFilter?
>
> This is an issue if the only way to use tokens is via rdf:resource :
> can one use
>
> <myFilter rdf:resource="ivoat:SloanPhotometry"
> rdf:resource="ivoat:filter" rdf:resource="rMagnitude"/>
>
> One could argue that IVOAT is already too bloated (it is) and that the
> best approach would be to divide it up into sub-vocabularies, e.g.
>
> math (since this goes far beyond astronomy alone and may need to
> be coupled with an international math vocabulary)
>
> <myFraction rdf:resource="math:fraction"/>
>
> physics (Ibid)
>
> <mySimuulation rdf:resource="physics:gravitation"/>
>
> instruments
>
> <myFilter rdf:resource="instr:filter"/>
>
> geology
>
> <myPlanetaryFeature rdf:resource="geo:volcano"/>
>
> sources
>
> <myTarget name="M81" rdf:resource="src:quasar"/>
>
> ....
>
> Obviously, this can easily result in a flood of mini-vocabularies
> where no one knows where what can be found. On the other hand, do we
> really need SloanPhotometry alongside with Volcano in the same
> vocabulary?
>
> Thus, I think it's about time we also discussed what all this
> whoop-dee-doo about vocabularies is actually good for and how the
> process/programmer/user on the street is supposed to deal with them.
>
> Rick
>
>
Received on 2008-02-04Z18:53:03