Andrea.
very slow email connection here at aas..
>
> A. Roadmap.
> Our goal is very simple: we need to stabilize (which means adding,
deleting,
> transforming ) the present draft list of ucd-words, that you can find at
>
> http://cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr/UCD/ucd1p-words.txt (just the list)
> http://www.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/IvoaUCD/WD-UCDlist-20050429.pdf (the WD
> document)
>
> in order to (i) reach consensus, and (ii) be able to promote the list
(and
> the associated document) to the level of IVOA Proposed Recommendation as
> soon as possible (within June).
OK. Doesn't need to be complete right?: in other words deleting and transforming are more important than adding, which can be done later.
>
> B. The Board
> 1. Duration.
> There will be a Sci-Board as long as UCDs will be in use in the VO, in
order
> to maintain the vocabulary. The mission of the board is described in the
> main UCD document, that you can find at
>
> http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/latest/UCD.html
>
> now under minor revisions as suggested during the Exec Meeting in Kyoto.
> It is possible that in the future the Exec could change the mission to
suit
> new needs of the VO.
Agreed.
>
> 2. Participation.
> Participation is on a voluntary basis. Colleagues can ask the chair of the
> Board to be inserted in (or deleted from) the mailing list of the Board,
> and to work for a specific task (see below).
>
> 3. Chair
> For the transition period required to set up the Board and let it run, I
> will act as chair person of the Board (by the way, setting up the Board
> and upgrading the present list of UCD-words to the level of IVOA PR is a
> formal action for the chairman of the UCD-WG). I propose to go for an
> election of the chairman of the Board in a month from now.
>
> C. Organization
> 1. What (Tasks)
> Time is very short, at least for this first phase of our work. I propose
> then to define a number of key tasks and form task-groups on different
> aspects of the vocabulary. The most urgent cases were well pinned down
> during the last InterOp Meeting. My first draft proposal is to organize
our
> work around the following tasks:
>
> T1: the "velocity" and the resolution(s) problems
> T2: theory and simulations (sim ?)
> T3: at/mol physics
> T4: curation (humans, organizations) and other "meta"-likes
> T5: flux (total, net, backgr. and various "flux densities") and time
(period
> of, instant of)
> T6: solar system
> Txx : ??
OK
> T0: Coordination, general issues, not included in the above Ts.
> Like the Board, tasks are not "closed". The discussion is open ("plenary")
> and contributions are welcome from every member of the Board. It will help
> people with an analytical mind (like mine!) to see "T5" appear in the
> subject of your message, if dealing with "net flux" or mid-time of
> exposure.
>
> We need a coordinator for each task, with the responsibility to make a
final
> proposal to the Board.
> There is nothing formal in the following list of people, I'm just asking
> them to pay more attention to the discussion relevant to the corresponding
> task, and summarize the discussion to the Board in due time.
> Making use of the list of members (as of today) I propose the following
> coordinators:
>
> T0 General Andrea
> T1 Velocity/resolution Alberto Micol
> T2 Theory/simulations Volunteer(?)
> T3 At/Mol physics Marie-Lise Dubernet
> T4 Meta Sébastien D.
> T5 flux/time Jonathan MD
> T6 Solar system Pierre Didelon
>
Agreed.
Gerard, or Laurie Shaw maybe, as theory?
> 2. How
> Through the Board's mailing list. Always "reply to all". The chair will
> record all messages.
> In this first phase of our work time is very short. So please answer
within
> the given deadlines. We won't wait for late messages.
You need to make a "ucd-board-at-ivoa.net" mailing list so we don't have to all rely on 'reply' working right. I guess Markus or Marco can help with that?
>
> 3. When
> FIRST ACTION: please comment on the above organization/rules/tasks within
> Thursday the 2nd of June.
Comments above. Basically fine.
Jonathan
>
> This message is sent (for the last time) also to the wider
interop-at-ivoa.net
> community to ask the laziest to join in.
>
> Best regards
>
> Andrea
Solar System UCDs (really Astronomical Object UCDs): they will not be UCDs per the PR. But IVOA may need such a list and a UCD-compatible syntax may be appropriate. If the UCD/Semantics group doesn't want to take that work on, the DM group should probably do it. I think either group could do it, provided we keep the distinction between the two lists (UCDs, as semantics for astronomical non-object concepts, and the other list, as semantics for astronomical objects).
Andrea Preite Martinez andrea-at-rm.iasf.cnr.it Istituto di Astrofisica Spaziale Tel.:+39.06.4993.4641 Area di Ricerca di Tor Vergata Fax.:+39.06.2066.0188 Via del Fosso del Cavaliere 100 Cell:+39.339.381735500133 Roma