Re: Empty TD element wording

From: Ed Shaya <eshaya-at-umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:50:30 -0400


Thomas McGlynn wrote:

> Ed Shaya wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think it would be good idea, when designing a new XML
>> format, to allow the mask and the data be combined by allowing
>> special numbers assigned to the different Nulls.
>
>
> If you are intending that the different NULLs use different NaN bit
> patterns,
> one thing that will cause problems is that Java converts
> all NaNs to a single fiducial bit pattern in any manipulation of the
> data.

I do not advocate using binary!
In ADC/CDS tables, authors have often chosen the lowest available numbers within the Format statement like -999 and -998 or -99.9 to represent the Unknown values.
Often, to my dismay, they have chosen 0.00 to mean null.

>
> Personally I think we use masks not because we have too few choices
> of nulls, but because masks do not throw out whatever data we have
> in the image and can express criteria (not just badness) about our
> data with far more flexibility.
>

But even greater flexibility is to allow for metadata on null values in the data OR to allow a mask. Within the context of VOTable, a mask is not usually the preferred method (but we could enforce it). Either way, one would want to make it (nullValue and/or masks) part of the standard vocabulary so that applications understand it and behave properly.

Ed

> Tom
Received on 2006-06-23Z19:51:00